From pacedebate at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 11:00:54 2017 From: pacedebate at gmail.com (Timothy Mahoney) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:00:54 -0600 Subject: [Ndca-l] NDCA Dates In-Reply-To: <1488313557804.56715@k12.sd.us> References: <1488313557804.56715@k12.sd.us> Message-ID: Thanks to Maggie for explaining some of the underlying rationales for the current schedule. Having been the tournament director for several years let me answer the questions about the process for change. Our tournament procedures specify possibilities for amendment. I will paste those in below. The current procedures have a recommended schedule but that schedule doesn't specify what day the tournament would start/end. It would be a logical spot to place an amendment that required the tournament not to have competition on Sunday. One thing to keep in mind is that tournaments hosts for the next few years have already been selected and for 2018 (Marist) the hotel contract has already been signed. Here is the section of our tournament procedures that specifies how the document can be amended: Amendments This document may be amended in any of the following ways: 1) By a simple majority vote of the board. 2) A member of the NDCA that is not a board member may submit a written request for amendment to the NDCA President at any time. If said written request includes the signature of 10 or more members of the NDCA the NDCA President should, within one week, submit the amendment to the board to be voted on. The amendment is approved if a simple majority of the board votes in favor. If the amendment fails to receive a simple majority of board votes the person submitting the amendment may attempt to include more signatures. If the amendment is resubmitted with signatures of more than half of the NDCA membership within one year of the boards rejection of the amendment then the amendment is approved without a board vote. For the purposes of this procedure "half of the NDCA membership" will be determined by dividing the number of NDCA members on the day the amendment is rejected by the board and divided by two. 3) These procedures may be amended by a simple majority vote of the board consistent with voting procedures as specified in the bylaws. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Tim Mahoney Director, 2017 NDCA National Championships On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dahle, Travis R wrote: > Hello Coaches, > > > Has there ever been a discussion about moving the NDCA dates away from the > Saturday-Tuesday format? The reason I am asking is that schools like mine > can never come to the NDCA because of State rules against competing on > Sundays. This takes out not only my school, but our entire state as well as > several other states that have the same rules. > > > What would it take for the tournament to move to a Wednesday through > Saturday tournament? Is that feasible and if so, what would that process > look like? > > > Thank you for your thoughts on this for future NDCA Nationals. > > > Travis Dahle > > Sioux Falls (SD) Washington HS Debate > > > Travis Dahle > Washington High School > Speech & Debate > > _______________________________________________ > National Debate Coaches Association > ndca-l at debatecoaches.org > http://www.debatecoaches.org > http://lists.debatecoaches.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ndca-l > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maggiekb at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 11:02:51 2017 From: maggiekb at gmail.com (Maggie Berthiaume) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Ndca-l] NDCA Dates In-Reply-To: References: <1488313557804.56715@k12.sd.us> Message-ID: Sorry, I didn't reply all. Here's my response to Travis: Hi Travis, Good question, and one Georgia has grappled with while I've been coaching here. I don't know about the NDCA specifically, but in terms of tournament scheduling generally, tournaments often do Saturday/Sunday/Monday for two reasons: 1. Building Availability. It's relatively easy to get classrooms in schools (high school and college) on Saturday and Sunday. It's near impossible to get them on a weekday. By hosting Sat/Sun/Mon, the tournament moves to the hotel for later elims on Monday when they don't need very many rooms. It's rare (and very expensive) to find a hotel that can fit a whole tournament worth of classrooms, rather than just late elims. I'm imagining NDCA would really struggle to find either high schools or colleges that could offer ~100 rooms on a Thursday and Friday. 2. Missed School. With the current Saturday-Monday format, teams that wanted to miss the least amount of school could leave Friday evening and come back Monday evening, missing only one day of school (Monday). Switching to Thursday/Friday/Saturday for the competition would mean two missed days (Thursday/Friday). I do think a lot of schools fly out during the day on Friday or back on Tuesday, though, so I'm guessing #1 is the real sticking point. Hope that helps — I'm privy to the NDCA conversations, but those were the main issues Georgia considered. Maggie Woodward Academy On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Timothy Mahoney wrote: > Thanks to Maggie for explaining some of the underlying rationales for the > current schedule. Having been the tournament director for several years let > me answer the questions about the process for change. Our tournament > procedures specify possibilities for amendment. I will paste those in > below. The current procedures have a recommended schedule but that schedule > doesn't specify what day the tournament would start/end. It would be a > logical spot to place an amendment that required the tournament not to have > competition on Sunday. > One thing to keep in mind is that tournaments hosts for the next few years > have already been selected and for 2018 (Marist) the hotel contract has > already been signed. > Here is the section of our tournament procedures that specifies how the > document can be amended: > > Amendments > > > > This document may be amended in any of the following ways: > > > > 1) By a simple majority vote of the board. > 2) A member of the NDCA that is not a board member may submit a written > request for amendment to the NDCA President at any time. If said written > request includes the signature of 10 or more members of the NDCA the NDCA > President should, within one week, submit the amendment to the board to be > voted on. The amendment is approved if a simple majority of the board votes > in favor. If the amendment fails to receive a simple majority of board > votes the person submitting the amendment may attempt to include more > signatures. If the amendment is resubmitted with signatures of more than > half of the NDCA membership within one year of the boards rejection of the > amendment then the amendment is approved without a board vote. For the > purposes of this procedure "half of the NDCA membership" will be determined > by dividing the number of NDCA members on the day the amendment is rejected > by the board and divided by two. > > 3) These procedures may be amended by a simple majority vote of the board > consistent with voting procedures as specified in the bylaws. > > > > Let me know if you have any other questions. > > > Thanks, > > > Tim Mahoney > > Director, 2017 NDCA National Championships > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dahle, Travis R > wrote: > >> Hello Coaches, >> >> >> Has there ever been a discussion about moving the NDCA dates away from >> the Saturday-Tuesday format? The reason I am asking is that schools like >> mine can never come to the NDCA because of State rules against competing on >> Sundays. This takes out not only my school, but our entire state as well as >> several other states that have the same rules. >> >> >> What would it take for the tournament to move to a Wednesday through >> Saturday tournament? Is that feasible and if so, what would that process >> look like? >> >> >> Thank you for your thoughts on this for future NDCA Nationals. >> >> >> Travis Dahle >> >> Sioux Falls (SD) Washington HS Debate >> >> >> Travis Dahle >> Washington High School >> Speech & Debate >> >> _______________________________________________ >> National Debate Coaches Association >> ndca-l at debatecoaches.org >> http://www.debatecoaches.org >> http://lists.debatecoaches.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ndca-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > National Debate Coaches Association > ndca-l at debatecoaches.org > http://www.debatecoaches.org > http://lists.debatecoaches.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ndca-l > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jenny Achten On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Maggie Berthiaume wrote: > Apologies, the last sentence should read "I'm NOT privy to the NDCA >> conversations..." >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > National Debate Coaches Association > ndca-l at debatecoaches.org > http://www.debatecoaches.org > http://lists.debatecoaches.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ndca-l > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katie.g.weston at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 13:00:35 2017 From: katie.g.weston at gmail.com (Katie Weston) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 12:00:35 -0600 Subject: [Ndca-l] NDCA: Extra Courtyard Ogden Rooms Message-ID: I have three extra rooms (2 queens) reserved from 4/7 - 4/11 at the $89/night block rate that I no longer need. Please let me know if you would like me to transfer them. I'll be canceling the reservations on Friday. Katie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Shunta *Educator of the Year:* The goal of this award is to recognize someone who has made outstanding educational contributions to the debate community. In order to be nominated, an individual must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a nomination. A nomination must be for a current active coach. A statement in support of the nominee is encouraged with the nomination. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. *Tournament Host of the Year:* The goal of this award is to recognize tournaments that most closely adhere to NDCA best tournament practices, as outlined in the NDCA tournament procedures. In order to be nominated, the tournament host must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a nomination. A statement in support of the nomination is encouraged. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. *Rising Star Award:* The goal of this award is to recognize outstanding coaches in their first five years of high school coaching. In order to be nominated, an individual must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a nomination. A nomination must be an active coach in their first five years of coaching. A statement in support of the nominee is encouraged with the nomination. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krhamrick at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 09:33:05 2017 From: krhamrick at gmail.com (Kevin Hamrick) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:33:05 -0500 Subject: [Ndca-l] 2018 Billy Tate Southern Bell Forum Message-ID: Colleagues: The 36th Billy Tate Southern Bell Forum at Montgomery Bell Academy will be held January 6-8, 2018. The Nashville Airport Marriott will again serve as the tournament hotel. We hope that you will plan to join us. Cheers - K *Kevin Hamrick* *Director of Debate * *Montgomery Bell Academy* *4001 Harding Road* *Nashville, TN 37205* *(615) 298-5514 x249 (o)* *(615) 974-2723 (m)* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lexy at thecollegepreparatoryschool.org Thu Mar 23 18:01:42 2017 From: lexy at thecollegepreparatoryschool.org (Lexy Green) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 15:01:42 -0700 Subject: [Ndca-l] Extra rooms at NDCA Message-ID: I have a couple. Let me know if you need them before I cancel them. -- Lexy Green '81 Director of Debate College Prep, Oakland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Descriptions for the awards are below. Please send nominating statements to jordanshun at gmail.com. You will receive a ballot via email in the next two weeks, directly preceding the Championship Tournament in Utah. Thank you, Shunta *Educator of the Year:* The goal of this award is to recognize someone who has made outstanding educational contributions to the debate community. In order to be nominated, an individual must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a nomination. A nomination must be for a current active coach. A statement in support of the nominee is encouraged with the nomination. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. *Tournament Host of the Year:* The goal of this award is to recognize tournaments that most closely adhere to NDCA best tournament practices, as outlined in the NDCA tournament procedures. In order to be nominated, the tournament host must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a nomination. A statement in support of the nomination is encouraged. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. *Rising Star Award:* The goal of this award is to recognize outstanding coaches in their first five years of high school coaching. In order to be nominated, an individual must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a nomination. A nomination must be an active coach in their first five years of coaching. A statement in support of the nominee is encouraged with the nomination. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Shunta Jordan wrote: > Dear Members, > > We are accepting nominations for the NDCA Annual Awards. Descriptions for > the awards are below. Please send nominating statements to > jordanshun at gmail.com. You will receive a ballot > via email in the next two weeks, directly preceding the Championship > Tournament in Utah. > > Thank you, > Shunta > > *Educator of the Year:* > The goal of this award is to recognize someone who has made outstanding > educational contributions to the debate community. In order to be > nominated, an individual must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may > submit a nomination. A nomination must be for a current active coach. A > statement in support of the nominee is encouraged with the nomination. All > nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting > members will be given one vote. > > *Tournament Host of the Year:* The goal of this award is to recognize > tournaments that most closely adhere to NDCA best tournament practices, as > outlined in the NDCA tournament procedures. In order to be nominated, the > tournament host must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may submit a > nomination. A statement in support of the nomination is encouraged. All > nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed on a ballot. All voting > members will be given one vote. > > *Rising Star Award:* The goal of this award is to recognize outstanding > coaches in their first five years of high school coaching. In order to be > nominated, an individual must be a member of the NDCA. Any member may > submit a nomination. A nomination must be an active coach in their first > five years of coaching. A statement in support of the nominee is encouraged > with the nomination. All nominees fitting the above criteria will be placed > on a ballot. All voting members will be given one vote. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: